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Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 15, 2008 7:45pm
by Black Cat
I want them to get in the boxing ring and duke it out!!

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 15, 2008 10:52pm
by Athos
I want to get in the boxing ring and duke it out!

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 15, 2008 10:58pm
by Black Cat
You wanna be Prez? O.o

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 15, 2008 11:28pm
by Athos
Yes and no. Yes because I would delegate tasks that the federal government currently has and give it to the States. And no because after reading the 'Cult of the Presidency' by Gene Healy, I don't think I'm the President that the people want.

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 4:00am
by scorpionwarrior
The people don't know what President they want XD. Besides it's not about what the people want. It's about who'll be the best for the country :P

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 5:22am
by SASSZAIN
AThos would be best for the country then.
I say we amend the constitution to let him become president!!
and then we MAKE him president.

and then he drops the F bomb on national television.


That'd entertain me vastly.

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 9:50am
by Nyx
SASSZAIN wrote:AThos would be best for the country then.
I say we amend the constitution to let him become president!!
and then we MAKE him president.

and then he drops the F bomb on national television.


That'd entertain me vastly.
Only if I get to be in the cabinet and we make the Fangirl Army a private army for the President. Think about it! Drop some manga in the terrorists hide out and watch us go nuts!

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 1:39pm
by Athos
scorpionwarrior wrote:The people don't know what President they want XD. Besides it's not about what the people want. It's about who'll be the best for the country :P
I don't think you see what I'm getting at with this. The President is America's Superman. Since 1901 (era of TR and his progressivism), TR became somewhat of a superhero icon by going after big railroad companies. TR is commonly known as the Trust Buster, and you'll see what I mean once I find some political cartoons to illustrate this point. The people have this image of the President to fix all their problems, to represent them all, to have all this power. It's continued on since his term (especially in FDR's term). This idea of the President directly conflicts with the Constitution itself which limits the government (especially the President) from doing certain actions. (There are some things the Constitution is silent on itself). However, you're right, it's all about who is better for the country (enter, the Electoral College). The framers of the Constitution feared the thought of the public actually voting for President.

Personally, the best of all the Presidential candidates this year is Ron Paul. He is what I would prescribe for this country. But, since he's out, he has thrown his support for Chuck Baldwin (Constitution Party). I recommend that some of you go check out Baldwin's site. He has some rather interesting news going on in his site. I'll also mention here that my poli sci prof made an interesting comment about the "debates." He said that American politics would be more interesting if we just had Dennis Kuchinich (D) and Ron Paul (R)go at it. They'd both be agreeing on issues, and they would be disagreeing on issues. One thing that I don't like about Obama is that I read an article somewhere saying that if a vacancy for the Supreme Court opened up (Justice Stevens, 88, may retire) he would most likely appoint Lawrence Tribe. Tribe has argued numerous times before the Court and is a staunch supporter of the doctrine of substantive due process [SDP]. I'm not so much as a fan of SDP because then you can mold the Constitution into whatever you want it to mean.

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 5:26pm
by Black Cat
Ok, I'll just pretend I understood all that. -.-

Things like this aren't exactly what I'm good at, interested in, or really care about. Seeing as how I'm too young to vote. :P

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 5:59pm
by scorpionwarrior
Maybe the people need a new type of president then, One that won't promise them a superman or false promises for that matter. One that will change the way the world looks at America and turns society right again >_>

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 6:09pm
by Black Cat
Thats asking for a lot, don't you think?

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 6:10pm
by Athos
Is what the people need is to get an interest in the Constitution and to begin to adhere to it. The only time when they can conjure up the Constitution is when something bad happens to them. The people need to change some of their views and wants. It takes more than a "President" to do that. Look at Ron Paul. He's an example.

I don't think it's much, considering what we could get.

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 6:11pm
by scorpionwarrior
Not really. I reckon Athos could easily do that. But yeah It's not even that much to ask for. If you can bring society back to the way it was where most was accepted you can do a lot more than you think.

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 6:19pm
by Athos
I don't think it would be easy. Remember, when in politics, you're bound to make someone mad.

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 6:20pm
by Black Cat
I guess

I'll just leave this sort of thinking to you guys, you're better at it then me

Re: The Meeting Grounds for the Fangirl Army

Posted: Oct 16, 2008 6:21pm
by scorpionwarrior
That's not important if you're making your country a better place :P

lol Black Cat XD