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Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 10:47am
by Tyche
One could say abortion is/was off topic, too.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 12:05pm
by Shining Star
Tyche wrote:One could say abortion is/was off topic, too.
not really. The animal stuff is. I mean if you think about it we didn't even cover other issues that correspond with abortion..that noone mentioned yet.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 12:46pm
by Jade_Steel_Hawk
Tyche: Abortion is a possibility to pregnant women. That's why it is relevant.

Dre: I get your point, I'm vegetarian on and off, depending on the intensity of training I do. I actually prefer to not eat meat. However, animals are really tasty. I mean, I'm sure humans are too, but that's kind of illegal. We kill animals for food. The fetus is just thrown away after it is aborted.

Edit: I was really curious as to what people taste like, here are some quotes from people who have had human meat.

"The flesh tastes like pork, a little bit more bitter, stronger. It tastes quite good." Armin Meiwes

"It was like good, fully developed veal, not young, but not yet beef. It was very definitely like that, and it was not like any other meat I had ever tasted. It was so nearly like good, fully developed veal that I think no person with a palate of ordinary, normal sensitiveness could distinguish it from veal. It was mild, good meat with no other sharply defined or highly characteristic taste such as for instance, goat, high game, and pork have." William Seabrook

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 12:56pm
by Shining Star
Jade_Steel_Hawk wrote:Tyche: Abortion is a possibility to pregnant women. That's why it is relevant.

Dre: I get your point, I'm vegetarian on and off, depending on the intensity of training I do. I actually prefer to not eat meat. However, animals are really tasty. I mean, I'm sure humans are too, but that's kind of illegal. We kill animals for food. The fetus is just thrown away after it is aborted.
ugh. that made me really sick just now. especially the last sentence. :(

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 1:02pm
by Jade_Steel_Hawk
Shining Star wrote:
Jade_Steel_Hawk wrote:Tyche: Abortion is a possibility to pregnant women. That's why it is relevant.

Dre: I get your point, I'm vegetarian on and off, depending on the intensity of training I do. I actually prefer to not eat meat. However, animals are really tasty. I mean, I'm sure humans are too, but that's kind of illegal. We kill animals for food. The fetus is just thrown away after it is aborted.
ugh. that made me really sick just now. especially the last sentence. :(
To be honest, it doesn't sicken me that much unless I really think about it.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 1:06pm
by Shining Star
Jade_Steel_Hawk wrote:
Shining Star wrote:
Jade_Steel_Hawk wrote:Tyche: Abortion is a possibility to pregnant women. That's why it is relevant.

Dre: I get your point, I'm vegetarian on and off, depending on the intensity of training I do. I actually prefer to not eat meat. However, animals are really tasty. I mean, I'm sure humans are too, but that's kind of illegal. We kill animals for food. The fetus is just thrown away after it is aborted.
ugh. that made me really sick just now. especially the last sentence. :(
To be honest, it doesn't sicken me that much unless I really think about it.
I had an image and thats why it bothered me.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 1:14pm
by Pennyroyal Tea
Jade_Steel_Hawk wrote:Tyche: Abortion is a possibility to pregnant women. That's why it is relevant.

Dre: I get your point, I'm vegetarian on and off, depending on the intensity of training I do. I actually prefer to not eat meat. However, animals are really tasty. I mean, I'm sure humans are too, but that's kind of illegal. We kill animals for food. The fetus is just thrown away after it is aborted.

Edit: I was really curious as to what people taste like, here are some quotes from people who have had human meat.

"The flesh tastes like pork, a little bit more bitter, stronger. It tastes quite good." Armin Meiwes

"It was like good, fully developed veal, not young, but not yet beef. It was very definitely like that, and it was not like any other meat I had ever tasted. It was so nearly like good, fully developed veal that I think no person with a palate of ordinary, normal sensitiveness could distinguish it from veal. It was mild, good meat with no other sharply defined or highly characteristic taste such as for instance, goat, high game, and pork have." William Seabrook

Animals are killed sometimes for food, other times for sport. And life is life, one way or another it's extinguished and it's not coming back. You can make excuses for anything.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 2:27pm
by Shining Star
What do you mean by that? with the excuses part i mean.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 2:39pm
by Jade_Steel_Hawk
"For sport" is usually game hunting - used for food. The hunters shoot it, clean it, eat it, then use the fur or bones if they want. If they shot it and left it, I would consider that cruelty.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 2:49pm
by Pennyroyal Tea
Shining Star wrote:What do you mean by that? with the excuses part i mean.
I mean you can justify anything if you really want to, it's not hard. And everyone does it. It's a matter of clearing conscious.
Jade_Steel_Hawk wrote:"For sport" is usually game hunting - used for food. The hunters shoot it, clean it, eat it, then use the fur or bones if they want. If they shot it and left it, I would consider that cruelty.
They do sometimes. Honestly neither of us can really find how many people actually eat what they kill, as I'm sure the people who go to Africa and hunt lions and elephants, and the people who hunt bears really don't bother with eating the meat so much as stuffing trophies.

And like I said, who cares if they eat the meat? The animal still dies, just like the whales and dolphins the Japanese people hunt.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 3:02pm
by Jade_Steel_Hawk
Pennyroyal Tea wrote:
Jade_Steel_Hawk wrote:"For sport" is usually game hunting - used for food. The hunters shoot it, clean it, eat it, then use the fur or bones if they want. If they shot it and left it, I would consider that cruelty.
They do sometimes. Honestly neither of us can really find how many people actually eat what they kill, as I'm sure the people who go to Africa and hunt lions and elephants, and the people who hunt bears really don't bother with eating the meat so much as stuffing trophies.

And like I said, who cares if they eat the meat? The animal still dies, just like the whales and dolphins the Japanese people hunt.
Then I consider that cruelty [and a waste of a hunting license...if they even have it in the first place].

In the case of endangered animals, like some whales and dolphins, I don't think they should be hunted, as each one plays a role in its habitat [unless it's an invasive species upsetting the normal balance]. As for animals like chickens, which prosper almost anywhere, I don't see the harm done in using them for food.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 3:15pm
by Pennyroyal Tea
Jade_Steel_Hawk wrote:
Pennyroyal Tea wrote:
Jade_Steel_Hawk wrote:"For sport" is usually game hunting - used for food. The hunters shoot it, clean it, eat it, then use the fur or bones if they want. If they shot it and left it, I would consider that cruelty.
They do sometimes. Honestly neither of us can really find how many people actually eat what they kill, as I'm sure the people who go to Africa and hunt lions and elephants, and the people who hunt bears really don't bother with eating the meat so much as stuffing trophies.

And like I said, who cares if they eat the meat? The animal still dies, just like the whales and dolphins the Japanese people hunt.
Then I consider that cruelty [and a waste of a hunting license...if they even have it in the first place].

In the case of endangered animals, like some whales and dolphins, I don't think they should be hunted, as each one plays a role in its habitat [unless it's an invasive species upsetting the normal balance]. As for animals like chickens, which prosper almost anywhere, I don't see the harm done in using them for food.
Where does life stop being sacred? When it can be used for human benefit? People who get abortions can argue that it was just a seed that was never alive. I would certainly say a chicken is more alive than a fetus at most stages.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 3:23pm
by Jade_Steel_Hawk
Animals eat each other, it's not just humans.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 3:25pm
by Pennyroyal Tea
Jade_Steel_Hawk wrote:Animals eat each other, it's not just humans.
The animals that do eat each other live in the wild and can survive off of little health. That is completely different from being raised only for human consumption.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 3:34pm
by Jade_Steel_Hawk
I'll agree with you that the conditions of many of those places are horrendous, which is one of the main reasons I don't include meat in my diet all that often.

Re: Pregnancy Scares

Posted: Aug 11, 2010 3:39pm
by Pennyroyal Tea
Jade_Steel_Hawk wrote:I'll agree with you that the conditions of many of those places are horrendous, which is one of the main reasons I don't include meat in my diet all that often.
Haha you agreed with me. How does it feel?