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Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 06, 2006 8:19pm
by Slash
I don't mind when they add lib stuff, I just hate whenever they totally go off the original dialouge. It's true that some of the Japanese dialouge can't be translated, or wouldn't appeal to American audiences, but the stuff in, say Pokemon, was totally dumbed down and is just a form of advertisment.
SPC actually did a good job though. I didnt mind that dub job ^__^
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 07, 2006 6:11am
by phantomdark
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 07, 2006 12:11pm
by Slash
What about shows like Saiyuki, FLCL, Excel Saga, Full Metal Panic, Full Metal Alchemist, Yuu Yuu Hakusho, Kenshin... I think they are all excellently done.
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 07, 2006 12:30pm
by Cody-kins
not all dubs are bad
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 07, 2006 5:42pm
by Kyuubi
just naruto's and few others
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 07, 2006 6:12pm
by BooDestroyer
Then we've got Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo.
Oh man, I'm just so speechless.
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 07, 2006 7:41pm
by Slash
Pretty much the 'Destroyer of Anime' is 4Kids, as they market the shows for kids, and usually get ahold of some pretty non-kiddie shows. So the aftermath usually means that horrible VAs are aquired, because kids dont care about what the characters sound like. They're main concern is pretty colors and cute glompy creatures.
The only good 4Kids dub is, yes, I know, Pokemon. If you watch the Japanese version, the VAs sound pretty close to the ones casted in the US.
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 08, 2006 9:36am
by kukutaru_ookami
didn't I already say that 4kids kills anime? As of yet I haven't found another dub as bad as those done by the 4kids crew and Naruto is pretty bad..unless you can get by the \"believe it\" then it's actually fairly close..oh and thunder blade the english name for the chidori I wonder what Rasingen will be called oh werll so long as it isn't the \"believe it\" I'll be happy
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 08, 2006 12:12pm
by Slash
I didn't think 'Dattebayo!' had any translation? I guess 'believe it' would have to suffice in that case.
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 08, 2006 12:14pm
by BooDestroyer
Slash wrote:I didn't think 'Dattebayo!' had any translation? I guess 'believe it' would have to suffice in that case.
Dattebayo means nothing, really. Although, 'believe it' actually sounds very funny when timed right... XD
Edit: What's wrong with the quote thing?!?
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 08, 2006 12:17pm
by Slash
I dunno, personally I think it sounds horribly lame and childish (Well, I guess it does fit with Narutos personality). I just wished they would have picked something a little more dramatic and 'fight-worthy.'
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 08, 2006 6:27pm
by Ryukon
The use of "believe it" is annoying whenever I hear it. Then again, I can't think of anything else that'll fit the mouth.
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 09, 2006 8:11am
by Slash
What about 'Try It!' or 'Bring It!,' something that shows Naruto's hardass side. It always seems like that'd fit, considering it's usually right before a fight scene or when Narutos angry. 'Believe it' just sounds so...edited.
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 12, 2006 2:37pm
by Slappy
I've seen Goldenboy both subbed and dubbed. The dub actually made me laugh out loud many times, Kintaro's voice is just so absurd. The sub version did nothing for me, just like any subbed anime. Comedy, especially in dialogue, is something that is very fragile. Punchlines have to be delivered at just the right time and they have to sound just right. Comedy has its own rhythm.
If you went and saw your favorite comedian, but he spoke in Japanese and you got to read his jokes in subtitles, would you even laugh? No, you might smile, but probably just out of politeness. It would be embarrassing and not very funny.
This is why I prefer dubs over subs, granted the dubs are good. Dubbing makes the anime actually make sense to me from a cultural perspective. When Japanese people watch anime, they aren't watching them subbed, but dubbed. The anime was written and dubbed for them in their own language. To think that, as an American, I should be watching anime subbed, makes no logical sense. That's like buying a book or manga that has the original Japanese words in it with subtitles crammed in there, which brings me to another point...
Subtitles usually draw me away from being immersed in the anime. When you watch any film in English, you get immersed in the characters and world of the movie. There is no "interface" between you and the film world. With subtitles, there is a veil thrown over the film that you have to constantly interface with. It is subconscious, but it's there and it takes away from the feeling of being completely immersed in the fictional world, even though most people don't know or realize it.
Of course, most of the anime I watch is subtitled because I have no choice. There are series I want to see and most of them haven’t been dubbed yet.
My perfect world is where all anime is dubbed and dubbed well.
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 12, 2006 4:39pm
by Gyro Zeppeli
There are some dubs that are TERRIBLE and some that are great. Anything by 4Kids is ugh(gets ready to puke) I watch the subbed versions and they're pretty good but when I see the 4kids version it completely ruins the series (I still like One Piece but not nearly as much after seeing the 4Kids version

) Naruto's dub aint great either only because of the "Bring it" and dont get me started on the old speed racer (hahaha!). However some animes have great dubs. Cowboy Bebop and s-CRY-ed to name a few. DBZ's American dub is actually a huge improvement over the sub (mainly because Goku has such a high pitched, squeaky voice even as an adult on the Japanese version)
Re: What's so bad about dubs anyways?
Posted: Jun 12, 2006 11:07pm
by akeria
I hate dubs cause the voices really suck and they can't pronounce the names properly. Although another person might say differently. Let's just say that different people have different opinion.