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re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 2:43pm
by phantom
everething is made of atoms take a look at an element chart you will see they are both almost the same thing
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 4:40pm
by Dr.Ni Jianyi
I know that,but lead is not an atom.
I wrote the name wrong its not Paracelus its Paracelsus.
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 5:26pm
by phantom
led is made of atoms!!!!!!!! GET THAT IN YOUR HEAD AND ITS atomic number is one under gold that makes them very close
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 5:39pm
by Dr.Ni Jianyi
Dude.Calm down.
I know its made of atoms.
And I know its one of a few elements that closes itself to the atomic bond of gold.
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 5:42pm
by phantom
ok you lost me where did atomic bonds come from? thats out of the blue
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 5:44pm
by Dr.Ni Jianyi
The atomic bond is when atoms gather to make an element.
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 5:46pm
by phantom
first your wrong( well partoly correct) and second we were not talking about atomic bonds
Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 5:50pm
by Kyle Bloodheart
And, the point of this debate is? I truly don't see how this connects to the discussion about the Philosipher's Stone.
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 5:51pm
by phantom
we are talking about the relation between gold and led which ir related.
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 6:15pm
by Dr.Ni Jianyi
whats atomic bond then??
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 6:17pm
by phantom
the bond between 2 or more diffrent atoms
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 30, 2005 6:41pm
by Dr.Ni Jianyi
Your right.
Its two or more than two atoms that gather up to make an element
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 31, 2005 4:06pm
by NoMatter
Hey, I was just researching alchemy yesterday (wikipedia), along with other things related to the 1988 novel _Foucault's Pendulum_ by Umberto Eco. (I'm in the middle of it.) I've also been watching Fullmetal Alchemist eps, obviously so it was very interesting to find that Paracelsus, mentioned above, was also named Hohenheim (sound familiar?) and he believed in alchemy as a science and not a religious pastime. The guy that some believe found the elixir of life and his grave is empty is Nicholas Flamel, who believed in alchemy as a form of magic. Some may remember him being mentioned in _Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone_. Popular guy! Flamel's grave has a serpent cross symbol (along with other emblems), which is the symbol you see on Edward's shoulder (and somewhere on Alphonse too, but I can't remember where at the moment). Interesting, huh?
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: May 31, 2005 4:51pm
by phantom
ya
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: Jun 01, 2005 4:07pm
by Dark Wing
wow very interesting NoMatter I see you've done your research well.

maybe I too should start researching Alchemy.
re: Philosipher's Stone
Posted: Jun 02, 2005 5:39pm
by NoMatter
It's interesting that a lot of the people we consider as building the foundations of modern scientific thought are people who dabbled a lot in alchemy. Isaac Newton, for one, spent way more time on alchemic research than anything else he did. It's interesting to think of how scientific and religious thought (since alchemy was a spiritual thing for some, as it was born of the church) have changed over time.