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Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 29, 2007 9:24pm
by Biki
uv been here only 2 days and are only 6 posts shy of 100. ladyz and gentelmen, i think we've got another cloud on our hands. >.> :D (that was said in the kindest way possile cloud my lovely little brother. :))

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 12:38am
by Athos
XD aw.

Black Cat: that comment I said earlier was a comment on what was said a post or two above that.

Does anyone remember that legislation that I talked about which made me really mad? If so, then read on at your own risk. (Remember, I said I'll put the confusing stuff in spoiler tags XD. But I tried as best as I could to water it down for you guys).
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Well, as it turns out, a lawsuit has been filed in federal court, arguing that Senate Bill 777, also known as, "The Student Civil Rights Act of 2007" (which has been written mostly by Equality California- a lobbying firm) it is in fact unconstitutional under Art. 1 Sec.1 of the California Constitution, as well as Title 42 of the United States Code, Section 1983.
The case is known as, "California Education Committee v. Brown."

I have to say, I'm surprised that this has been filed in a federal court. Originally when I read the legislation, I knew that it would be challenged but not this quickly. Furthermore, I expected it to have been held in a state court.
The CA Education Committee is going after Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jerry Brown (Attorney General of the State of California), and Jack O'Connell (California Superintendent of Public Instruction).

The Student of Civil Rights Act of 2007 was passed in October by the California State Legislature. This law is to be effective Jan. 1 of 2008. Under this law, students could legally enter any bathroom. In addition, any student, educator, or any other school staff, could sue another student, teacher, etc...on the behalf is a (LGBT) student felt offended in anyway. Now, I see plenty of problems with this. First, CA has a good number of criminals walking around (including pedophiles). Second, students have their own beliefs, just like everyone else. So if one has a disagreement with another, there is an instant lawsuit. Not to mention, the State of California is short on Judges. In fact, in my county, a case could not be heard because no Judge was available (which I remind you is unconstitutional since everyone has the right to a speedy trial).

I'm amazed and excited (if you can't tell already) that this has been challenged. Normally, one must be harmed in order to go to court. This case I think, will be a landmark decision, especially for some activists. California is a leader among the states. And since this is going to federal court, the states would have to adopt the proper laws based on this decision. Well, I'd thought that I would share this with some of you (like KoYue) who live in California. I'm glad that no child, or person, was harmed by this law in order to go to court. However, it doesn't mean that it's over. I'm sure this case will go towards the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. (The 9th Circuit court is the largest of the 11 courts of appeals. It's also the most "open minded.") In fact, some other circuits had overturned the decision of the 9th circuit.

And if one party isn't happy, it might go to the U.S. Supreme Court. Still, the U.S. Supreme Court could in fact use "stare decisis" (let the decision stand). Not to mention, they must vote for a writ of certiorari (aka writ of cert) to hear the case.
Well, I got to study for my math test. :heh:

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 5:18am
by shadow47
Good morning everyone! :D

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 8:21am
by Athos
Hey Shadow! What's up?

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 11:05am
by Hallow
What's going on in the part of the world that you guys live in?

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 11:19am
by Athos
Well, locally, I might be nominated and appointed to serve a 4 year term on a commission regarding juvenile justice and prevention. Also, if you read what I wrote in the spoiler box, that's another big thing.

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 11:20am
by Hallow
Well, what you wrote in the spoiler box is quite long, and I'm quite lazy, so I didn't read it. I tried to read it, but I lost interest.

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 11:42am
by Athos
I'll put it in a digest then...The State of California passed a law that redefines gender, and it gives some people a special privilege. A group filed a lawsuit against 3 people: (1) Gov. Schwarzenegger, (2) Attorney General Jerry Brown and (3) Jack O'Connell of CA Public Instruction.

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 2:46pm
by Biki
yeah. iv chosen not to read ANY of that. ill start this whole convo with by saying.......hi :)

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 2:59pm
by shadow47
Athos wrote:Hey Shadow! What's up?
Nothin really. Just writting a news paper artical with satire for a class and i'm lost. Are you any good at it?

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 3:18pm
by Athos
Never done anythig with satire, but I'll be glad to help.

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 3:22pm
by shadow47
ok, how about this. We are trying to do somthing about when different bands get together and put on concerts to raise money for other bands.

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 3:29pm
by Athos
Like the battle of the bands? I know people who actually set up that project.

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 3:32pm
by Cloud Leonhart
Being gone for 2 1/2 days really made me miss this place...XD So, what's going on?

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 3:34pm
by shadow47
I'm not really sure on that. My Brit. lit. teacher made this up.

Re: FRIENDS TALK

Posted: Nov 30, 2007 3:42pm
by Athos
Cloud Leonhart wrote:Being gone for 2 1/2 days really made me miss this place...XD So, what's going on?
I'm seeking nomination and appointment to the County's Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Commission.


Shadow: Battle of the bands is when local (normally high school) bands get together and to compete for a contract and money.