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Posted: May 27, 2008 5:24pm
by Dreams
I'll have to listen to it later.

I'm better off without you = Omae ga inai hou ga yoi da.

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Posted: Jun 02, 2008 3:01am
by miki_animeholix
can i ask how to say.. i Really like you. i hope you still remember me. dont talk to me. please gUYZ i need some. [-o<

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Posted: Jun 02, 2008 10:12pm
by Dreams
I remember Karin already answered you somewhere about the first one.

I really like you
Daisuki desu
大好きです

I hope you still remember me
Ima demo watashi no koto o oboeba ii desu
今でも私のことを覚えばいいです

Don't talk to me
Watashi ni iu na
私に言うな

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Posted: Jun 03, 2008 2:21pm
by Yuki~
Hey Dreams, could you explain me the diference of the meaning of 'you ni' and 'tame ni'?
I had this exercise on my homework and it almost made me get crazy XDD
I have an idea of the diference, but I want to hear someone who knows more japanese than me.

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Posted: Jun 03, 2008 5:28pm
by Dreams
Bah... it's a tough one. I usually use 'tame ni' instead of 'you ni'. I guess the nuance would be that 'you ni' = 'in order to' and 'tame ni' = 'for the purpose of'. 'Tame ni' has more of a plan or purpose behind it, I guess. 'Tame ni' has a stricter use, gramatically, and it's usually the better choice when saying you're doing something for someone, etc.

Chousengo o jouzu ni hanasu you ni, mainichi benkyou shite iru.
In order to (be able to) speak Korean well, I study every day.

Chousengo o jouzu ni hanasu tame ni, mainichi benkyou shite iru.
I study every day for the purpose of speaking Korean well.

Use with 'you ni naru' roughly means 'want to [become] so that...'

Chousengo o jouzu ni hanaseru you ni naritai.
I want to be able to speak Korean well.

'You (ni)' can also be seen trailing off sentences where the other person will already know the rest of what you want to say. Or it can be seen attached to greetings, like "Subarashii o-tanjoubi de aru you ni" ("May you have a super birthday").

And 'tame ni' can also be used just like 'kara' to give a reason ('because'), but it has a more formal tone to it.

As a note to anyone else who reads this, do not get this use of 'you ni' confused with its use of 'appears like/seems', nor 'you na', etc.

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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 9:47am
by Yuki~
Thanks Dreams ^^
Now I can see that what I thought to be the difference between 'you ni' and 'tame ni' is right. ^^

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Posted: Jun 08, 2008 3:30am
by miki_animeholix
its my birthday... tomorrow and how will i sing happy b-day in japanese????
plz. grant my wish!!!

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Posted: Jun 08, 2008 4:44pm
by Yuki~
Hmm.. last year my sensei sang me 'happy birthday' in japanese.. she said it's the same as the english version, but with japanese accent, of course...
Now I don't know if there's another song... XD

Happy birthday!

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Posted: Jun 13, 2008 11:58am
by Dreams
Really? They sing it just like the English version?
I never knew that. XD

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Posted: Jun 15, 2008 7:33pm
by Karin Rengu
XD That's odd!

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Posted: Jun 16, 2008 2:55am
by miki_animeholix
can i ask how to say----- well.. i dont like you like that... (weird)

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Posted: Jun 16, 2008 1:35pm
by Hime
Can someone tell me when we use 'minna san' and 'mina san' ?
Or there's no diference? XD

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Posted: Jul 02, 2008 8:02pm
by 3046718pancakemix
Hi! I'm new but I know alot of Japanese! :mrgreen:

1-Ichi
2-Ni
3-San
4-Yo
5-Go
6-Roku
7-shi
8-Hechi
9-Kyu

No could also be said Nai

In terms of respect there is more the -san, -sama, -kun -chan- dono

There is...

-hime -Princess

-baka -Idiot

-gaki -brat

-Teme -All that means is YOU!! in a angry voice. Used commenly by children trying to sound adult.

Ask if you want more I have study japanese for 13 years!!! [-o<

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Posted: Jul 03, 2008 3:58am
by Karin Rengu
You would be helpful in this thread, as well as this forum. But all the stuff you just posted is common knowledge I think. I mean, I've been studying for under a year and I know all that stuff. But please! Help out here! I think dreams has been busy lately (the girl who usually answers our questions)

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Posted: Jul 03, 2008 10:56am
by 3046718pancakemix
Rikoku wrote:Japanese suffices. e.g. Kun, Chan, i need help with these please. ](*,) i never know which one to use when
Well for Chan is commenly used for girls and pets but you could call guys chan if your just teasing them.

Kun can be used for boys and girls.

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Posted: Jul 03, 2008 6:14pm
by Dreams
This is awesome. I had my whole response ready to go and I hit the wrong button and it went away forever. And you know how before you do something stupid like that, you write up these cheerful little explanations? But afterwards, you're just scowling and trying to remember what you said the first time. lmao. Anyway, as I tried to do, apologies for not being around. I'm working two jobs, so my life is a combination of busy + lazy.
miki_animeholix wrote:can i ask how to say----- well.. i dont like you like that... (weird)
Saa, sonna ni anata no koto ga suki de wa nai.
さあ、そんなにあなたのことが好きではない。
Hime wrote:Can someone tell me when we use 'minna san' and 'mina san' ?
Or there's no diference? XD
Don't quote me on this, but I believe the difference is whether you're speaking (use 'mina-san') or writing it (use 'minna-san'). There is a slight difference in pronounciation, but I don't even know why two versions exist. When looking up the kanji, both versions correspond with it. It might be how 'sayounara' mutated into 'sayonara', although both are still used.
3046718pancakemix wrote:Hi! I'm new but I know alot of Japanese! :mrgreen:

1-Ichi
2-Ni
3-San
4-Yo
5-Go
6-Roku
7-shi
8-Hechi
9-Kyu

No could also be said Nai

In terms of respect there is more the -san, -sama, -kun -chan- dono

There is...

-hime -Princess

-baka -Idiot

-gaki -brat

-Teme -All that means is YOU!! in a angry voice. Used commenly by children trying to sound adult.

Ask if you want more I have study japanese for 13 years!!! [-o<
13年間、あなたは日本語を勉強してたの?
すげー、熟達者に違いないよ。

The numbers are a bit off.
1: ichi
2: ni
3: san
4: yon (or shi)
5: go
6: roku
7: nana (or shichi)
8: hachi
9: kyuu (or ku)
10: juu

'No' is never pronounced 'nai' - they're two totally different things. You might be thinking of when the 'nai' ending is lengthened to 'nee' in rapid (slangy) speech.

'Baka', 'gaki', and 'teme' cannot be used as suffixes. And 'teme' is actually a really rude derivative of 'temae', so be extra careful when using it because it can come across as a swear word. 'Hime', on the other hand, can indeed be used as a suffix after someone's name to mean 'Princess [Name]', although the longer more polite version ~'o-hime-sama' might be used.

Besides the usual ~san, ~sama, ~kun, ~dono/tono, ~chan, ~sensei for suffixes, here's a list of some unfamiliar ones:

~senpai: used when addressing a higher classmate
~kouhai: used when addressing a junior (lower) classmate
~rin: general nickname ending
~bo/bou: cute nickname ending for boys
~chama: nickname ending, combines 'chan' and 'sama'
~chin: a childish way of saying 'chan'
~tan: also a childish way of saying 'chan'
~cchi: a cutesy nickname ending, derived from 'tomodachi' (friend)
~ue: like 'san', but out of date... often used with 'mother' (haha-ue) and 'father' (chichi-ue)
~iemoto: like 'sensei', but only used at formal/traditional events
~shi: used in formal writing with someone the speaker does not know