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Californians!

Posted: Feb 23, 2009 7:26pm
by Tyche
Octo-mom. I want your opinions about her, since you're basically gonna raise her children.

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 23, 2009 9:52pm
by Sasami Jurai
I think she's very..... crazy in a somewhat negative way. <.< I ain't paying taxes yet till after my birthday this year. It's not fair we have to contribute money to crazy lady.

(sorry got a headache that's why I'm talkin' like that >.<)

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 23, 2009 10:02pm
by Tyche
Lucky for her I'm not a doctor. I would have taken her uterus away.

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 24, 2009 12:12am
by Athos
I get to raise her children? Where's my belt?! (The beatings shall continue until morale improves). But alas, stupid reproductive rights...

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 24, 2009 6:16am
by Tyche
Is it legal to take her kids from her at the moment? Or to take/have taken her utirus out?

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 24, 2009 1:44pm
by Athos
The answer is no for both questions. You can't take her kids away because I'm pretty sure that she has money (I mean she has her own publicist) and you would need to show causation. And you can't take away her uterus out because it's unconstitutional. There are 2 major cases that dealt with reproduction and that is Buck v. Bell and Skinner v. Oklahoma. In Buck, the Court upheld a state law sterilizing mentally retarded people "for the protection and health of the state." Skinner v. Oklahoma was the same thing, but instead of mentally retarded it was for anyone who was a criminal. But in Skinner, the Court said that compulsory sterilization as a punishment for a crime when applied only to certain categories of crimes violates the Equal Protection Clause. If her uterus were to become a legal issue under the Equal Protections Clause, then the State would have too pass a scrutiny test. I'd guess that it'd be middle-tier scrutiny in which the government must show that the challenged classification serves an important state interest and that the classification is at least substantially related to serving that interest. The State cant make a law saying "The State will take Octo mom's uterus out" because that'll be a Bill of Attainder which is unconstitutional. They also can't make a law now to do something about it because that'd be Ex Post Faco (also unconstitutional). And taxpayers can't bring suit against her (I don't think) because taxpayer standing in Court has never really worked out (seemingly only in Flast v. Cohen).

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 24, 2009 8:45pm
by Tyche
You guys shouldn't have to deal with her mistake though. :?

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 25, 2009 12:54am
by Athos
It's not a mistake though. If she wants to pop out enough kids to populate a planet, then let her. Some people (like my Aunt) love being a mother. At least this woman isn't shooting up drugs, or something else. Her kids (I don't hear anyway) seem to be trouble makers. As long as they stay in school and not end up as an ill of society, then I can be happy with that. But if she things her kids are nothing but meal tickets and a stairway to the limelight, then she has another thing coming. The funny thing is we pay welfare for tons of things, so if she decides to go on welfare, why should everyone else be mad?

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 25, 2009 5:08am
by SASSZAIN
Pssst. AThos~ You has typo.
read your last paragraph backwards and see it you spot it ;)

So this chick in Cali had 8 kids? And.. why is other people gonna pay for them.. ?

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 25, 2009 6:16am
by Tyche
She's clearly not able to take care of her children though. Is it at least legal to take her in for testing? And if she's found in incapable of taking care of her kids or in an ill mental state (coughcoughCRAZYcoughcough), can they take them then?
Athos wrote:But if she things her kids are nothing but meal tickets and a stairway to the limelight, then she has another thing coming. The funny thing is we pay welfare for tons of things, so if she decides to go on welfare, why should everyone else be mad?
She doesn't have a job as it is, and her parents can barely affort to keep their house. I'm pretty sure that even if they aren't a meal ticket, something can't really add up here.

But, if they aren't a "meal ticket", it's not okay to take them from her? America is messed up big time. :x

And, even so. If she says she loves them all, how can you be absolutely sure she isn't bluffing to get millions on talk shows and thousands out of our wallets?

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 25, 2009 7:14am
by Taylor_Chan
I think she's so crazy. Lucky for me I don't have to pay taxes yet but she crazy. She's crazy for wanting to get spermed up and she doesn't even know who the fathers are! Tsk tsk. Yesterday was all my friends and I all talked about. Suddenly, it became a class discussion. Everyone agrees that she's lost her brain. She's weird and stupid. Why would someone want to get "pregnant" with 8 kids who's fathers are anonymous?

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 25, 2009 4:24pm
by Athos
Filitz wrote:She's clearly not able to take care of her children though. Is it at least legal to take her in for testing? And if she's found in incapable of taking care of her kids or in an ill mental state (coughcoughCRAZYcoughcough), can they take them then?
Athos wrote:But if she things her kids are nothing but meal tickets and a stairway to the limelight, then she has another thing coming. The funny thing is we pay welfare for tons of things, so if she decides to go on welfare, why should everyone else be mad?
She doesn't have a job as it is, and her parents can barely affort to keep their house. I'm pretty sure that even if they aren't a meal ticket, something can't really add up here.

But, if they aren't a "meal ticket", it's not okay to take them from her? America is messed up big time. :x

And, even so. If she says she loves them all, how can you be absolutely sure she isn't bluffing to get millions on talk shows and thousands out of our wallets?
She got offered like what? A million to be in a porno. I bet she'll take it in secret.

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 25, 2009 6:54pm
by Gaming Goddess
Athos wrote: She got offered like what? A million to be in a porno. I bet she'll take it in secret.
Teehee.

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 25, 2009 8:22pm
by Tyche
:twitch: I didn't know that. :twitch:

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 25, 2009 9:36pm
by Athos
Filitz wrote::twitch: I didn't know that. :twitch:
That's what my great grandmother told me right when I walked in the door. My Aunt was listening and was yelling "GRANDMA! WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING."

Re: Californians!

Posted: Feb 26, 2009 12:46am
by josh :)
stupid califnornian imbreds its an insurance scam