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[Chaos Flame]

Sesshoumaru....you hiding behind complete crap you think is philosophical...

I often see people who are wrong cowering behind moral, emotion and ethical barriers as an excuse...

And your little story is contradicting itself almost on every line...

And is quite funny to see you chouse a war for your story...You clearly have no idea wot honour is, as much of it is also off a battle field...

And some historical correctness for you - In medieval ages, there was not such thing as honour but valor and chivalry, the knight’s code of conduct...it is similar to honour...But I feel chivalry should be part of honour...So I make it...

actully, if you take a moment to look, you were oppressing me, but now it is you who is defending your own ideas, and the reason i choose battle as a theme is becuase i favor the challenge.
and i realize the knights code of conduct is not a code of honor, but it is very much attatched to the idea. the only reason some humans may find my ideas and thoughs self contradicting, is because i have no side, i only see the world as it is, i do not choose to pick a side or be a major part of the world because it would tamper with my ability to see through the belifes of others. but prehapes both of us are alittle...shall we say, misguided on this matter, i suggest we bring a third party into this, like a spectator to tell what their opinion is on the matter. how about Nanaki, he shall be the spectator ok?

[Dretlin]

Sesshoumaru...Sorry to say, but I am not misguided...I know were I stand and I know were I want to go...

If I see someone in the street on the ground I will stop, while others would ignore...

If I see someone being attacked I would help them even if I were out numbered...

Honour also means deep emotional understanding...

Putting yourself in other persons places...I can see your place...you feel just like me....

[Chaos Flame]

Sesshoumaru...Sorry to say, but I am not misguided...I know were I stand and I know were I want to go...

If I see someone in the street on the ground I will stop, while others would ignore...

If I see someone being attacked I would help them even if I were out numbered...

Honour also means deep emotional understanding...

Putting yourself in other persons places...I can see your place...you feel just like me....

and have i ever said i would not do the same? your arragance and your faliur to admit that your not always right only proves that you are misguided, just like all humans, you refuse to let things go, you refuse to understand the world and its worth, you do not understand that proving your self right to the world brings nothing, to prove yourself right means only determination, to admit yourself wrong means only the ability to learn from mistakes and correct them, to fight when ever you can proves only streangth, and to advoid fighting at anytime proves only inteligence...but to know when to choose your action, means everything.

[Dretlin]

You think I am misguided because I am standing by my belifs and not bowing down to yours...

You can't put a price on the world...It is ignart to suggest all things that happened revolve around humans...

And really...as humans are...we are make false decsions, pick the wrong horse at the race track, give a person the wrong medication, put a knife in an incent persons heart...

It is ingrant to think anyone who does not follew the same belifs as you is wrong...thats how people like Hitler, Stalin and Robert Mugabe came into existance...

[Chaos Flame]

You think I am misguided because I am standing by my belifs and not bowing down to yours...

You can't put a price on the world...It is ignart to suggest all things that happened revolve around humans...

And really...as humans are...we are make false decsions, pick the wrong horse at the race track, give a person the wrong medication, put a knife in an incent persons heart...

It is ingrant to think anyone who does not follew the same belifs as you is wrong...thats how people like Hitler, Stalin and Robert Mugabe came into existance...

i do not wish for anyone to follow my beiliefs, my beiliefes have come from years of emotional pain. if anyone else willingly follows this path, it is their choice...

[Dretlin]

The path of emotional pain....

Everyone should walk this...though it is with sorrow, lies, betrayal and disappointment...

Your life is not lived with out it....yet no one wants to walk it...

[Chaos Flame]

The path of emotional pain....

Everyone should walk this...though it is with sorrow, lies, betrayal and disappointment...

Your life is not lived with out it....yet no one wants to walk it...

true, but though people run from it, if they execpt it they learn from it, it brings no knowledge, only wisdom...

[The Black Knight]

"live long and prosper"

[Chaos Flame]

"live long and prosper"

be quite. go watch star trek or something.

[Bambi]

"live long and prosper"

be quite. go watch star trek or something.

Lol.

[Lil' Biki]

fka koribabyonln

chaos, that last comment was fall over funny but alittle mean. anyway, i cannot tell who between you is right or wrong, but i do believe you both bring important factors into the argument. i do not wish to join your argument because you would not be remotely interested in what i had to say. but i will type out something that i found on g4tv's forums and thought it quite interesting:

the idea that there is good and evil is a falsehood. both are the same thing. the distinction is of our own invention. this assumption is up for debate, but it should be noted that both sides of a conflict believe themselves to be the righteous one. the inevitable polarization usually sparks the conflict. in the end it depends on which ever side is powerful enough to impose its will on the other, because history was written by the winner.

i think this passage fits right into the conflict that you and bretlin were having.


bretlin, why are you arguing ideas and morals with chaos? aren't you doing the same thing that you told chaos was not what this forum is for? you may see this as different and if so then please tell me how. because it looks like the same thing to me. though don't get me wrong, i am enjoying the argument. i'm learning alot. so by all means... continue

[Lil' Biki]

you two got me off topic. so anyway, even if naroku shoved kikyo off a cliff, would it even matter? let me remind you people that kikyo is already dead. even if she is the living dead. you can't possibly kill what isn't alive in the first place. if he shoved me off the cliff. i would have just gotten back up, gone to the top of the cliff, and kicked his . cuz aint nobody kickin' this one off a cliff and not gon' be dealt wit'. sorry to go st. louis ghetto on yall but i felt it was almost necessary. anyway, it wouldn't matter like i said

[Chaos Flame]

go on...

[Lil' Biki]

do you mean me or bretlin? if you meant me i'll give you my input. after rereading the argument again i have come to the conclusion that i agree with you. i am not saying that you are right for i feel that right and wrong are the same as good and evil: a falsehood. it has taken me some time to realize this but i finally have. i have decided to side with you because i feel that bretlin is only trying to prove himself right when he is in the wrong. admitting yourself wrong is much more difficult than trying to prove yourself right. so many people take the easy path. i prefer the way you explained yourself more than the way bretlin tried to prove you wrong. i agree with you in the battle situation. it is about how you perceive the world. i cannot say who is right or wrong in that situation either because i have different opinions than others and i do not wish to even attempt to impose my will on any other person. like you said, i am not trying to make anyone follow the path i take. to try to force your will on them is to me a waste of time. and by you i was deply inspired. with the whole; to prove yourself right shows determination, to admit you're wrong shows the ability to learn from mistakes and correct them(though how can you chang what's already done?), to fight is to show strength, to avoid fighting shows intellegence, and to know when to choose these actions is everything. after reading that i was just like wow! the fact that that is so true was amazing. you do inspire me chaos. (plus your name is hot. bringing together my 2nd and 3rd love is awesome:chaos and fire. my 1st love is anime)anyway, you asked me to go on therefore i did. i hope you are satisfied with my response. i think it's good for a 14 year old. hey chaos, do you want to join my anime family? the only two members so far are me and ashitaka. i like him cuz he was the first to join when aparently no one else thought it was a good idea? if you do then you can tell me on this topic or the one i made for the family.


bretlin: don't take offence because i sided with chaos. you did add interest to the argument but my favor was with chaos. please don't be mad.

[Chaos Flame]

[Lil' Biki]

glad to see you liked it. so will you join my family chaos?