does god really exist?

[Raoul Duke]

This post was made before I saw the one above. ^

Too right mate.

For ATOMOSK: (i wanted to make sure i got your attention [made a new post too] to discuss this one.)
I'm not having a go at you either, I just want to know(if you'll be so kind as to tell) why do you believe in God? I'm interested in other peoples' opinions(especially the educated/informed who can make admissible decisions), because i want to learn.

To me, I think that humans have outgrown our need for God. As humans we are afraid of the unknown. God explained a lot and accounted for the unknown. Now that we can explain a lot (with science) there isn't a need for him anymore(in my opinion).

So yup, why do you believe in God?

You can PM it to me if you want, or ignore me. lol. I'm just a confused boy.

[soulanubis666]

Well anubis, Your here arent you? The world was made isnt it? Who could it be made by? Hmmm? GOD you TARD, Isnt the WORLD enough proof that god existed?, I would go and cuss you out terribly in a mad fit of rage, But im quitting on that, Stupid pills.....Anyways, Proof that god and jesus existed is in every single on of us, I mean how is the world in existion if there was no god Hmmmm? But i guess i cant make everyone a believer in christianity, So you go on with your satanist ways! >\

Why is anubis here because he was spawned from two seprate beings with diffrences that create a new being. The world is here because..you wanna know what you're one of those chirstains I just cant stand so I'm done addressing you. Alright moving on I don't beilve in god I do however like some of his teachings well not exactly his because I dont think he exsists but I digress my biggest reason for thinking god doesnt exsit is the whole he loves us all thing well its obvious he doesnt if he did why would he create a planet that is doomed eventually the sun(which is a star created through the explosin of another star) will grow to an unbelivable size and swallow the earth within its flaming engulf also he does seem "evil" at times God sat back and watched Satan inflict Job with alligments and though I havent read the bible in a while(I'll admit it) I'm currently unaware of any reward for endring this and god should come before anything else why would any god supposdly "good" say treat all equally expect me I'm am the most important thing ever and gays are lowly beings that shall go to hell" seems kinda biased to me

r u talking about me?

[Hige]

Well anubis, Your here arent you? The world was made isnt it? Who could it be made by? Hmmm? GOD you TARD, Isnt the WORLD enough proof that god existed?, I would go and cuss you out terribly in a mad fit of rage, But im quitting on that, Stupid pills.....Anyways, Proof that god and jesus existed is in every single on of us, I mean how is the world in existion if there was no god Hmmmm? But i guess i cant make everyone a believer in christianity, So you go on with your satanist ways! >\

rofl. Ignorance is such a funny thing to watch.
However, all you really did was make yourself look like a retard. If you are going to act that way, don't participate in this discussion. God just told me that he doesn't like you making Him look like an idiot, nor does he want you to preach in his name.


Now, to business: If one follows Christianity(like maybe atomosk), and one is a secular humanist(perhaps J.Kudo), often both people will share very similar values and morals.

And umm, Nanaki, have a look at the thing I quoted earlier; about my friends belief which i share, it kinda ties in with what you kinda said.

Ohh im soooooo scared
Thing is buddy, God forgives, He doesnt think that NOR did he tell you that, Your probably some tarded whacko lunatic living in your GRANDMOTHERS basement whacking off to star wars, Yes i said that, Now then, God wouldnt say that nor would jesus because they arent sinners, Such as many people here, Not pointing fingers although, Oh yes, I have sinned and i just did, But i can get forgiven, And how were the FIRST two people created to mate? I mean, If there wasnt Two people BEFORE them then how could they have been here? I bet your going to say something like plants, Dang nazis.....
Now if you will excuse me, Reno 911 is on and i must take another pill for tonight
Thank you

[soulanubis666]

Well anubis, Your here arent you? The world was made isnt it? Who could it be made by? Hmmm? GOD you TARD, Isnt the WORLD enough proof that god existed?, I would go and cuss you out terribly in a mad fit of rage, But im quitting on that, Stupid pills.....Anyways, Proof that god and jesus existed is in every single on of us, I mean how is the world in existion if there was no god Hmmmm? But i guess i cant make everyone a believer in christianity, So you go on with your satanist ways! >\

rofl. Ignorance is such a funny thing to watch.
However, all you really did was make yourself look like a retard. If you are going to act that way, don't participate in this discussion. God just told me that he doesn't like you making Him look like an idiot, nor does he want you to preach in his name.


Now, to business: If one follows Christianity(like maybe atomosk), and one is a secular humanist(perhaps J.Kudo), often both people will share very similar values and morals.

And umm, Nanaki, have a look at the thing I quoted earlier; about my friends belief which i share, it kinda ties in with what you kinda said.

Ohh im soooooo scared
Thing is buddy, God forgives, He doesnt think that NOR did he tell you that, Your probably some tarded whacko lunatic living in your GRANDMOTHERS basement whacking off to star wars, Yes i said that, Now then, God wouldnt say that nor would jesus because they arent sinners, Such as many people here, Not pointing fingers although, Oh yes, I have sinned and i just did, But i can get forgiven, And how were the FIRST two people created to mate? I mean, If there wasnt Two people BEFORE them then how could they have been here? I bet your going to say something like plants, Dang nazis.....
Now if you will excuse me, Reno 911 is on and i must take another pill for tonight
Thank you

why r u soo upset? were just expressing our opinions here...if u want 2 cuss me out fine but dont take it out on other people...

[Hige]

Actually thats not the quarter of the half i usually do o.o So i cant really CUSS cuss someone out.....bad things happen ;-;, Anyways this thread should be locked, All its causing is flaming and upsettion, And i am sorry <<

[soulanubis666]

hmm...mayb...but mayb people can still b civil about this and it wouldnt have 2 b locked...

and its ok...just take somemore happy pills and all will b well...

[Raoul Duke]

There is absolutely no reason for this thread to be locked. Just be nice people.

[Atomosk]

This post was made before I saw the one above. ^

Too right mate.

For ATOMOSK: (i wanted to make sure i got your attention [made a new post too] to discuss this one.)
I'm not having a go at you either, I just want to know(if you'll be so kind as to tell) why do you believe in God? I'm interested in other peoples' opinions(especially the educated/informed who can make admissible decisions), because i want to learn.

To me, I think that humans have outgrown our need for God. As humans we are afraid of the unknown. God explained a lot and accounted for the unknown. Now that we can explain a lot (with science) there isn't a need for him anymore(in my opinion).

So yup, why do you believe in God?

i believe in God because that's the most scientific answer to me. However, unlike many people, i don't see God as some enigmatic being that lives up in heaven, far out of our reach. God is the energy that surrounds us, slowly developing our world as time changes.
Buddhism teaches that all things are connected. The Jedi teach that the Force binds us and connects us. Hinduism (at least the ancient one) teaches that all animals have souls inside them.

God is what you make of him. I seriously doubt that He gives a flop how you perceive him or worship him.

As far as science is concerned, God's direct participatoin in natural events may have been disproved, but that doesn't make it any less magnificent, nor does it mean God is no longer necessary. God is, in fact, the one great scientist. He created the Earth, designed not just our body, but billions of different bodies for each animal. he designed the landscapes, the weather, and propelled evolution. then designed a way to reproduce sexually, instead of assexually like a cell. Science doesn't disprove the existence of God, it reinforces his existence. look at the world around you, and tell me there couldn't have been some greater power at work.

Hope that answers your question, locke.

Puffster, you need to respect other's opinions. your kind are the reason i don't go to church. we need to tolerate all opinions and beliefs. you don't need to like them, nor do you need to listen. if you can't post in this discussion without insulting people, then by all means, don't feel obligated to post. And we're not going to lock the post just because you're upsetting people. even if it does happen, we'll just start another thread. This is a good debate we have, and damned if you're going to ruin it for us.

[Ethello]

NO! No, god does not exsist if Bush is still the prez

[soulanubis666]

im afraid that is a mistake of the people...

[Hige]

This post was made before I saw the one above. ^

Too right mate.

For ATOMOSK: (i wanted to make sure i got your attention [made a new post too] to discuss this one.)
I'm not having a go at you either, I just want to know(if you'll be so kind as to tell) why do you believe in God? I'm interested in other peoples' opinions(especially the educated/informed who can make admissible decisions), because i want to learn.

To me, I think that humans have outgrown our need for God. As humans we are afraid of the unknown. God explained a lot and accounted for the unknown. Now that we can explain a lot (with science) there isn't a need for him anymore(in my opinion).

So yup, why do you believe in God?

i believe in God because that's the most scientific answer to me. However, unlike many people, i don't see God as some enigmatic being that lives up in heaven, far out of our reach. God is the energy that surrounds us, slowly developing our world as time changes.
Buddhism teaches that all things are connected. The Jedi teach that the Force binds us and connects us. Hinduism (at least the ancient one) teaches that all animals have souls inside them.

God is what you make of him. I seriously doubt that He gives a flop how you perceive him or worship him.

As far as science is concerned, God's direct participatoin in natural events may have been disproved, but that doesn't make it any less magnificent, nor does it mean God is no longer necessary. God is, in fact, the one great scientist. He created the Earth, designed not just our body, but billions of different bodies for each animal. he designed the landscapes, the weather, and propelled evolution. then designed a way to reproduce sexually, instead of assexually like a cell. Science doesn't disprove the existence of God, it reinforces his existence. look at the world around you, and tell me there couldn't have been some greater power at work.

Hope that answers your question, locke.

Puffster, you need to respect other's opinions. your kind are the reason i don't go to church. we need to tolerate all opinions and beliefs. you don't need to like them, nor do you need to listen. if you can't post in this discussion without insulting people, then by all means, don't feel obligated to post. And we're not going to lock the post just because you're upsetting people. even if it does happen, we'll just start another thread. This is a good debate we have, and damned if you're going to ruin it for us.

I said i was sorry, And i will try to, The pills are starting to work and ive just started anger management, Now if you will be so kind as to forgive me, I just have grudges from past wars....you wouldnt understand BUT i was saying this should be locked because of the flaming, And you seem to be carrying it on somewhat , Once again im sorry to all those that i have abused and/or made fun of or have been mean to....May god have mercy...

[soulanubis666]

with that said...cant we just have peace around here now! he said he was sorry and thats it...prob solved...

[Atomosk]

I said i was sorry, And i will try to, The pills are starting to work and ive just started anger management, Now if you will be so kind as to forgive me, I just have grudges from past wars....you wouldnt understand BUT i was saying this should be locked because of the flaming, And you seem to be carrying it on somewhat , Once again im sorry to all those that i have abused and/or made fun of or have been mean to....May god have mercy...

fine, then the whole petty arguement can stop and we can continue from an academic point of view like it was before. thank you puffster, that was very mature of you (i've met some people...).

i have nothing to contribute to the debate right now though, i've posted all i could think of. maybe locke can get me back on track.

[Raoul Duke]

Nicely said atomosk. But what about people whom life is not a miracle for. Are some people supposed to be happy and love life and others meant to be sad?

Life is so discriminate and indiscriminate at the same time. If you get me.

'Life' is a totally different experience for everyone. And the meaning and point of each persons life is different. Some don't even have one(a life or a point).

If there was a God, sure you can praise him for all the miracles and joy and beauty in the world, but know that there is just as much hatred and disgusting-ness in the world. I =find that people thank God for the good and blame people for the bad.

i say, man is responsible for the good and bad, and that some stuff is just beautiful naturally, without God making it good, (lol like flowers) and some stuff is [censored], like diseases.

and i am being so inarticulate today because God made me confused(lol works on a few levels there).

[Atomosk]

Nicely said atomosk. But what about people whom life is not a miracle for. Are some people supposed to be happy and love life and others meant to be sad?

Life is so discriminate and indiscriminate at the same time. If you get me.

'Life' is a totally different experience for everyone. And the meaning and point of each persons life is different. Some don't even have one(a life or a point).

If there was a God, sure you can praise him for all the miracles and joy and beauty in the world, but know that there is just as much hatred and disgusting-ness in the world. I =find that people thank God for the good and blame people for the bad.

i say, man is responsible for the good and bad, and that some stuff is just beautiful naturally, without God making it good, (lol like flowers) and some stuff is s**t, like diseases.

and i am being so inarticulate today because God made me confused(lol works on a few levels there).

just as life is different for each person, so should be one's spiritual beliefs. another reason religion should be less adamant about it's practices.

sorry guys, that's two posts where i've said nothing interesting. i ranted at first, but now i have no energy (damn school and football!).

[Karasu]

this is one subject that i think i better keep my mouth shut on O_O *walks back out*